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2 No. 2 ID: b9ac68 Locked Stickied hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
This thread is about those who engage in dishonest business dealings regarding commissioned artwork. It exists to warn artists and commissioners of those who might seek to cheat them.

We will investigate reports as much as we can, but this list exists only as an unofficial record and assumes no legal responsibility for repercussions over how seriously or lightly you or others may take it.

See the Board Rules thread for how to report someone. Remember, the more details you give and the more sources you can provide, the more likely you are to protect someone from going through the same problems.
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Name: Michael Hirtes

AKA: mhirtes, m_hirtes

Applicable links:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/689043/
http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3559

Modus Operandi:

Michael Hirtes has a long history of cheating and abusing artists in addition to his other abrasive behavior, going back almost a decade or more. His usual method is to ask for constant sketches to see the progress and make sure the commission is going as he wants it. He will ask for these sketches and numerous revisions (many infamously involving more and more elaborate toe rings) until either he has had enough sketches and simply abandons contact, or the artist becomes frustrated and calls off the commission.

A secondary tactic of Hirtes' seems to be to actually complete the commission, then find something that the artist did (posting the image in their gallery being one example) to demand a full refund lest he file a grievance with PayPal.

Whatever happens... whether the artist drops the commission, whether they cease to play along, or in any other method when Hirtes sees that he is not going to be able to abuse them into continuing to do as he wants, he will attempt to play the wronged party, making numerous public posts (both under his own name and anonymously) to attempt to vilify the artist and make them out to be the cheat.
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>> No. 7 ID: 168d06
Name: Asphyxiation

AKA: Uknown

Applicable links:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/658363/
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/663972/

Modus Operandi:

From what we can gather, extremely long wait times are this artist's weapon, in upwards of a year. The arsenal is bolstered by sob stories, attempting to befriend commissioners (or accepting commissions from friends), and self pity.

The main story that brought Asphyxiation to our attention was the journal above where she simply announced she was dropping all of her commissions with no intent to ever pay them back with the infamous two sentence journal: "droppin everything, sorry guys / can't pay you back, got no money". She later recanted and said she'd eventually fill the commissions, but did so while declaring everyone who expected her to fulfill her obligations to simply be whining.

This is the only major event known for this artist, but it warrants a warning of approach with caution. Commission Asphyxiation at your own risk.
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Real Name: Richard Helms
Current Alias: Betawolf
Other Known Aliases: Sinister Taz/snistrtaz

Applicable links:
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/betawolf/
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/snistrtaz/
>>/wtfur/5380

Modus Operandi:
For the record - of what we know about Richard's activites as it pertains to actually commissioning people, he makes good on payments and doesn't cause much trouble with artists, nor does he whine if they refuse to draw the kind of content he wants. Helms is on this list for a wholly different reason.

Helms used to (and may still) operate under the delusion that he owns the copyrights to images he's commissioned from artists (and that he owns copyrights on ideas, which is impossible) simply by paying for the commission, which would give him the right to sue people and/or use the DMCA on sites that distribute said commissions on the Internet. He once threatened to sue e621 because they had several of his commissions on their site, and refused to listen to a number of people - including the administrators of that site - who tried to explain that he had no legal grounds to sue and that there were better ways of asking the admins to have those commissions taken down.

After this debacle, Helms made it clear that he would no longer buy commissions from artists without having them sell him the copyrights to the commissions; he also insinuated that he will eventually use these commissions to open up a paysite, assumedly to make money for himself without giving a cut of the subscription fees to the artists behind the images. He later openly admitted that he does plan to make a paysite with images he owns the copyrights to, but only after an artist who'd worked with Helms in the past revealed a very questionably-worded "contract" Helms had them sign prior to the commission work.
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1 No. 1 ID: b9ac68 Locked Stickied hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
This board is for artists advertising that they are accepting commissions, and for those who are seeking an artist to draw their commissions. Because this board is a service to artists (mostly), it has a few more rules than usual. Please pay attention to them, they're here to keep order and reduce drama, and threads that don't adhere to them will be deleted.

1. If you are an artist advertising for commissions, start the thread with an example of your artwork. Make it clear what you will and won't draw, whether your advertisement is ongoing or for a set number of slots, and whether you'd prefer email contact or comments on the board.

2. If you want to commission an artist and are starting a new thread, pop open paint and draw a stick figure of your choice. This makes it easy for artists to find those threads. Include a general description of what you want (or get detailed, up to you), a general price range, and other such things. Only make a thread or reply to an artist's thread if you are serious.

3. If you are reporting someone for the Roll Call of the Dishonored, use an anime screencap to start the thread. (Google image search is your friend.) You must give thorough details about what happened, and the more verifiable info there is the better. Second-hand accounts are discouraged.

4. Do not post any art on this board that you did not draw or commission, unless you are communicating with the artist via a thread and are providing reference materials.

5. Whether you are offering commissions, seeking a commission, or reporting someone for the Roll Call, you cannot post anonymously. You can post anonymously if you have questions, are just commenting, or other such things, but for doing business or reporting someone, you must use your standard moniker if you have one.

6. Be polite. That goes for everyone. You can be a cock all you want on the other boards if you think you can get away with it, but this particular board is a place for people to do business.
>> No. 6 ID: 3c4869
As an aside to #5: if you're worried about impersonators, we have enabled the ID system on this board, and you can always use a tripcode or secure tripcode just to make sure people know you are who you say you are; check the FAQ on our site's frontpage for information on how to use tripcodes.

Oh, and one more thing: we will not tolerate people who impersonate artists for any reason on this board, and anyone caught doing so will be given a site-wide permaban.


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80 No. 80 ID: e12142 hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
Remember the old "art for adspace" deals we were running? Yeah, we've thought about those, and we're going to nix both of them in favor of a mix of the two in a single idea.

We've got adspace, and we're ready to give it to anyone who's willing to whore a little bit of their artistic talent out. But instead of doing a monthly deal, or drawing JUST a special request from myself, Sechs, or Rags to get the deal, we're going to do things a little differently now.

While we WILL still be offering adspace for drawing a special request, we won't be limiting you to doing just that. Additionally, we won't be locking you into a monthly deal like we had for some artists in the past. Instead, we'll be offering the following deals:

• If you draw a picture of Sage, Sechs, or Rags (or any combination of the three), you'll earn adspace for any amount of time up to two months. This means that you have essentially free reign to draw Sage, Sechs, and/or Rags how you see fit. (Obviously, we're not going to be comfortable with our characters being drawn in certain situations or doing certain things; if it seems questionable, please ask beforehand.)
• If you draw one of our special requests, you'll earn adspace for any amount of time up to four months. This means, however, that you're going to have to draw a specific idea from one of us.

This time around, we're not going to decide how long an ad will run by the quality/color content of the image (no more "black and white gets you two months, full color gets you four months"); instead, you'll decide exactly how long you want your ad to run. If you want it to run for just a couple of weeks, or the full timeframe you've earned, it will be entirely your decision. Per previous standards, the ad must be a 600x98 banner, and it can only be for sites/projects/products that you, the artist, are directly involved in (your FA page, an art auction, a paysite, etc).

Per previous standards, any artist listed as being completely DNP on this site is ineligible for this deal.

Reference material for Sage, Sechs, and Ragnarok can be found here: http://dammitfreehaven.com/photo/fanart/
>> No. 81 ID: e12142
Here's a short list of my own personal requests; Sechs and Rags will probably post some later, and we'll all add new requests to the thread as we think of them:

• Sage having sex with Tina Lynx; preferably, this would feature Tina on top of Sage. Zig Zag and/or Sechs reacting to the scene somewhere in the background would be a fun bonus, but not necessary.
• Sage having sex with Tila Sunrise from Las Lindas' "Dungeons and Dames" and "Breasts Are the Best" bonus comics.
• Any of the following characters in a revealing harem outfit: Gadget Hackwrench, Callie Briggs, Squirrel Girl, Sechs Fuckheaven
>> No. 82 ID: a2a218
This is very relevant to my internets
>> No. 83 ID: 9e2c26
>If you draw a picture of Sage, Sechs, or Rags (or any combination of the three), you'll earn adspace for any amount of time up to two months.

Wow. Now I wish I had something to sell.

Now I'm curious. I'm sort of a newcomer to these parts so I missed some critical information; are you guys hosted for free by someone and just use the ad space entirely for this stuff, or is it just cheap enough that you can blow off the occasional month or two worth of revenue without problems?
>> No. 84 ID: e12142
>>83

We don't make revenue from the site AT ALL. Sechs pays for the hosting out of her own pocket; we get the hosting for a pretty good price from cho0b (he who runs wtfux and Lulz.net). Our adspace is strictly an "art for ads" deal. Despite my *ahem* loose stance on copyrights and such, even I would feel pretty bad if we used the board (which, for all intents and purposes, runs off the back of other people's content) to make money for ourselves.

Since neither Sechs nor myself are artists (and I think that Rags would fall under that qualifier as well), we decided that having people do pics for us would be a better way to offer adspace on the board.


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79 No. 79 ID: 6434cf hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
Ahoy. So, I've recently started a sort of commission auction type deal on my FA journal, here:

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1204445/

Basically, I've got three slots open for single character pinups that I'm auctioning on my journal. Drop by, take a peek, help a SlowBro out. With the amount of interest I've generated so far, you could probably bid the minimum bid of $50 and get yourself a slot.


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78 No. 78 ID: 0a804a hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
Alright First off I am opening 100 slots for $5 inks! I'll never be doing this again more then likely. Restrictions are minimum background and 1 character! You can get as many slots as you want, I encourage it really!

Also my badges have gone from $15(picked up at FWA) and $20(shipped to you)TO
$10 if picked up at FWA!
$15 Shipped!
(Puctire of current badges offered)
Send me an email at orangykiss@gmail.com or note me on http://www.furaffinity.net/user/orangy/


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77 No. 77 ID: 454938 hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
Hello. I'm offering commissions fully colored and shaded.

I charge $25 for one character, and $30 for two, and I require payment beforehand.

Here's my gallery
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/lesq/

I've got settled into my college and work schedule and feel comfortable opening commissions again. :] I have a turn-around of a day or two.

Drop me a line at llesq@yahoo.com if you're interested.

Obviously I draw a lot of porn, but if you want clean art, I can do that too.


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75 No. 75 ID: 52b4ca hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
Real Name: Unknown

Alias: TwistedSnake

Applicable Links: http://furaffinity.net/user/twistedsnake

Modus Operandi:

A quick bit of background -- my most successful method of doing commissions has always been to do a sketch, send the client a low-res copy of that sketch, get paid, and then complete the work. I've had almost no issues doing it this way and it seems to work out well.

I was originally contacted by TS on November 3rd o 2009 to do a full color picture of his character of the same name. Cool. I did a sketch, and was soon asked to make a few small revisions to that sketch. No problem there. I was told he would be unable to pay until the following Wednesday.

On the 11th, I received this note.


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>> No. 76 ID: 52b4ca
Goddammit, I knew I forgot something when I was writing this. Sigh. Did not mean to post anonymously. >:|


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71 No. 71 ID: dd68eb hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
(Copy/Paste from FA)
Here's what I'm offering right now

$5 SKETCHES!
One Character Simple Background
Example-http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2582459/
$10 Sketches
More then one character
Example- http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2581207/

$15 Inks
One character simple background
Example-http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3062149
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2540358/
$20 Inks-
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>> No. 72 ID: 043717
That's cute Orangy, I love your work!

If I purchase commissions from you,mainly softcore but in color and simple background, will I have the exclusivity about redistribution and usage? The goal is not profit but more of an artist showcase or being an outsider from S.F H.B and C.S with plenty artists and an affordable membership!

I may however accept a censored preview on your FurAffinity gallery with a link to your commission job once it's uploaded on my website.

Thank you for accepting commissions, I'm seeking for artists to hire :)
>> No. 74 ID: 700b30
I'm slightly confused with your intentions. I will post an censored version if that is what you want. I would have to get an email from you to see what your thinking about the showcase thing you speak of. Email me at orangykiss@gmail.com


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41 No. 41 ID: eab77a hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
just wanted to let people know I'm open for commissions.
Sketches, inked, paintings, full-sized and high resolution print works with background or not.

prices may vary from eu. 50 to 200 following the time i will spend on it, but the professional result is guaranteed.
to contact me :
msn/email > darkdoomer@free.fr
aim > darkdoomer


galleries :
http://darkdoomer.deviantart.com/
http://www.e621.net/post?tags=nowhereincoming&searchDefault=Search
[ kayanamasha on fa ]

pic related.
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>> No. 42 ID: aa50a0
I also wanted to add:
Logos, Page layouts, Interface designs... all kind of graphic jobs.
that's all!
>> No. 43 ID: ff6bc4
>>41
I must say that the picture you posted is very good. I believe I'll have to look at your drawings and consider your offer.
>> No. 45 ID: c7d741
Check your email DD !
>> No. 73 ID: 043717
Hello Dark!

Your style is interesting so I would hire you, I think it's a good thing to support and encourage not-so-known artists yet I gotta ask you some info :

Pricing list, Id like to see a public list like how much you ask for a lineart, sketch or colors ( I think $40 could be a fair amount )

Set up a commission queue, knowing your previous commissioners and the ones you are working on

Do you accept porn requests? ;)

What reference materials are used? pose or photographs for the background?

What is your policy about the commission's final uses? I wish to have the exclusivity for some internet business a nd I will need a LOT of artists. The goal is to promote your art first!

Thank you in advance for your answers!
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11 No. 11 ID: 450987 hide watch expand quickreply   [Reply]
Alrighty, I'll start off with some copy-pasta from my FA page:

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**I reserve the right to decline commissions at any time, for any reason I see fit.** (this will only happen in rare cases, so far I've only had to do it once in 3 years)


Commission Info:

Sketch stage: $25
Inking stage: $20 (this is optional)
Digital Colouring: $20

Additional characters are $7 each.
I currently do not offer elaborate backgrounds
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>> No. 23 ID: dc2fa3
Dumb question: if I requested a pic of a pokemon and its trainer, would that count as two characters for the sake of a commission? I think it would, but I want to be sure.
>> No. 24 ID: 450987
>>23

Well, I'm actually kind of thinking that (since pokemon have plenty of pre-existing reference pictures) I wouldn't charge for an extra character. Sometimes I'll fore-go the X-character charge if it doesn't take very long to draw or if most of the character is obscured (ie. sitting at a table).
>> No. 66 ID: 450987
Bumpin' dis :B
>> No. 70 ID: b94d45
Hehe, I got the sketch and pic I wanted out of you! Mmm... Harley Quinn.

KIDDING! XD

I am seriously considering you for a commish, but I'll only make my name known when I have the money.


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