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2 No. 2 ID: b9ac68 Locked Stickied hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
This thread is about those who engage in dishonest business dealings regarding commissioned artwork. It exists to warn artists and commissioners of those who might seek to cheat them.

We will investigate reports as much as we can, but this list exists only as an unofficial record and assumes no legal responsibility for repercussions over how seriously or lightly you or others may take it.

See the Board Rules thread for how to report someone. Remember, the more details you give and the more sources you can provide, the more likely you are to protect someone from going through the same problems.
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Name: Michael Hirtes

AKA: mhirtes, m_hirtes

Applicable links:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/689043/
http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3559

Modus Operandi:

Michael Hirtes has a long history of cheating and abusing artists in addition to his other abrasive behavior, going back almost a decade or more. His usual method is to ask for constant sketches to see the progress and make sure the commission is going as he wants it. He will ask for these sketches and numerous revisions (many infamously involving more and more elaborate toe rings) until either he has had enough sketches and simply abandons contact, or the artist becomes frustrated and calls off the commission.

A secondary tactic of Hirtes' seems to be to actually complete the commission, then find something that the artist did (posting the image in their gallery being one example) to demand a full refund lest he file a grievance with PayPal.

Whatever happens... whether the artist drops the commission, whether they cease to play along, or in any other method when Hirtes sees that he is not going to be able to abuse them into continuing to do as he wants, he will attempt to play the wronged party, making numerous public posts (both under his own name and anonymously) to attempt to vilify the artist and make them out to be the cheat.
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>> No. 7 ID: 168d06
Name: Asphyxiation

AKA: Uknown

Applicable links:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/658363/
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/663972/

Modus Operandi:

From what we can gather, extremely long wait times are this artist's weapon, in upwards of a year. The arsenal is bolstered by sob stories, attempting to befriend commissioners (or accepting commissions from friends), and self pity.

The main story that brought Asphyxiation to our attention was the journal above where she simply announced she was dropping all of her commissions with no intent to ever pay them back with the infamous two sentence journal: "droppin everything, sorry guys / can't pay you back, got no money". She later recanted and said she'd eventually fill the commissions, but did so while declaring everyone who expected her to fulfill her obligations to simply be whining.

This is the only major event known for this artist, but it warrants a warning of approach with caution. Commission Asphyxiation at your own risk.
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Real Name: Richard Helms
Current Alias: Betawolf
Other Known Aliases: Sinister Taz/snistrtaz

Applicable links:
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/betawolf/
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/snistrtaz/
>>/wtfur/5380

Modus Operandi:
For the record - of what we know about Richard's activites as it pertains to actually commissioning people, he makes good on payments and doesn't cause much trouble with artists, nor does he whine if they refuse to draw the kind of content he wants. Helms is on this list for a wholly different reason.

Helms used to (and may still) operate under the delusion that he owns the copyrights to images he's commissioned from artists (and that he owns copyrights on ideas, which is impossible) simply by paying for the commission, which would give him the right to sue people and/or use the DMCA on sites that distribute said commissions on the Internet. He once threatened to sue e621 because they had several of his commissions on their site, and refused to listen to a number of people - including the administrators of that site - who tried to explain that he had no legal grounds to sue and that there were better ways of asking the admins to have those commissions taken down.

After this debacle, Helms made it clear that he would no longer buy commissions from artists without having them sell him the copyrights to the commissions; he also insinuated that he will eventually use these commissions to open up a paysite, assumedly to make money for himself without giving a cut of the subscription fees to the artists behind the images. He later openly admitted that he does plan to make a paysite with images he owns the copyrights to, but only after an artist who'd worked with Helms in the past revealed a very questionably-worded "contract" Helms had them sign prior to the commission work.
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1 No. 1 ID: b9ac68 Locked Stickied hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
This board is for artists advertising that they are accepting commissions, and for those who are seeking an artist to draw their commissions. Because this board is a service to artists (mostly), it has a few more rules than usual. Please pay attention to them, they're here to keep order and reduce drama, and threads that don't adhere to them will be deleted.

1. If you are an artist advertising for commissions, start the thread with an example of your artwork. Make it clear what you will and won't draw, whether your advertisement is ongoing or for a set number of slots, and whether you'd prefer email contact or comments on the board.

2. If you want to commission an artist and are starting a new thread, pop open paint and draw a stick figure of your choice. This makes it easy for artists to find those threads. Include a general description of what you want (or get detailed, up to you), a general price range, and other such things. Only make a thread or reply to an artist's thread if you are serious.

3. If you are reporting someone for the Roll Call of the Dishonored, use an anime screencap to start the thread. (Google image search is your friend.) You must give thorough details about what happened, and the more verifiable info there is the better. Second-hand accounts are discouraged.

4. Do not post any art on this board that you did not draw or commission, unless you are communicating with the artist via a thread and are providing reference materials.

5. Whether you are offering commissions, seeking a commission, or reporting someone for the Roll Call, you cannot post anonymously. You can post anonymously if you have questions, are just commenting, or other such things, but for doing business or reporting someone, you must use your standard moniker if you have one.

6. Be polite. That goes for everyone. You can be a cock all you want on the other boards if you think you can get away with it, but this particular board is a place for people to do business.
>> No. 6 ID: 3c4869
As an aside to #5: if you're worried about impersonators, we have enabled the ID system on this board, and you can always use a tripcode or secure tripcode just to make sure people know you are who you say you are; check the FAQ on our site's frontpage for information on how to use tripcodes.

Oh, and one more thing: we will not tolerate people who impersonate artists for any reason on this board, and anyone caught doing so will be given a site-wide permaban.


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100 No. 100 ID: 6140cb hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
Yah I feel pretty lame advertising on an image board but I figgered I'd give it a try

The price for a gigitally inked and colored pin up image is 30 bucks, and a little extra if you stuff snail mailed.

I have lower prices for regular inked Black and white images as well!

Contack me at
theburningdonut@yahoo.com
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I have bad spelling as well!

Black and white inked images are 10 bucks each!
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I do Art cards as well

As for what I won't draw is Extreme gore, diaper furs, budy fluids (Jizz and stuff is OK just no blood or urine and such), and cub porn.

Young LOOKING characters are OK!
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My stuff
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/theburningdonut/


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98 No. 98 ID: 548b0b hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
Excuse the posted image; I have no one to report and I'm not advertising to draw.

Normally, I wouldn't be strapped enough to need to open myself to commissions, but, well, something pretty big came up recently. This is my first time opening myself up for any type of commission, so I'm obviously new to this whole thing.

I have a small repertoire available on TGFB (>>write/358/ , >>write/247/ , and >>write/75/ , to name a few) and SoFurry (http://best-man.sofurry.com/stories), for you to gauge my abilities. I can write anything of any size, but keep in mind, the higher the word count, then the more time and effort goes into writing it and the higher the cost.

I don't want to limit my options, so I'll write most fetishes, but the usual "uncommon" fetish will cost a little extra (cub, scat, hard vore). Since I'm not too used to the whole commissioning business, I'll put out a price after you make your request and we can haggle from there.

Replies here, or at my attached e-mail, are welcome.
>> No. 99 ID: 548b0b
Whoops on the local links.

Easier: >>/write/358/ , >>/write/247/ and >>/write/75/


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92 No. 92 ID: 59638b hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
Done in the style of my most recent pieces (image with this post is one example). You get a color piece, 1-2 characters, G-PG, colored and textured. This is ONLY digital however (which is why the price is cheaper than my normal color commissions, which are $90). There is no hardcopy original (sketch/ink on paper). However, I’m willing to get prints made and sent out if you wish.

I am taking 10 of these, as I work through them pretty quickly. I only have 3 slots filled thus far!

I do mostly clean art, though I will do nude FEMALE pinups. Even with reference, my nude males just aren't very good.

You can find more information (including a link to my handy commission form) over here:
http://obliviousally.tumblr.com/post/566406278/50-color-digital-commissions

Also, if you want to check out my galleries, I'm on both DA and FA:
http://obliviousally.deviantart.com/
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/obliviousally/

Any questions? Feel free to ask!


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I'm looking for someone to do some character turnaround sheets for me.

But after getting burned by either A) People who do OK work in good time but totally miss big details or B) People who do great work, but are always going "Yeah, this week, sorry..." or C) Dramallamas who take your money and run.....I'm really running out of ideas here.

In particular, I'm looking for someone who is :
* Capable of d rawing body types from skinny to heavyset...
* Can draw multiple species, not just one genus or what have you.
* Pays attention to detail.
* Is open and honest about how long something will take. I know this stuff doesn't happen overnight, and I don't expect it to.
* Actively solicits feedback before finishing a product.

Any ideers? :(


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80 No. 80 ID: e12142 hide watch expand quickreply   [Reply]
Remember the old "art for adspace" deals we were running? Yeah, we've thought about those, and we're going to nix both of them in favor of a mix of the two in a single idea.

We've got adspace, and we're ready to give it to anyone who's willing to whore a little bit of their artistic talent out. But instead of doing a monthly deal, or drawing JUST a special request from myself, Sechs, or Rags to get the deal, we're going to do things a little differently now.

While we WILL still be offering adspace for drawing a special request, we won't be limiting you to doing just that. Additionally, we won't be locking you into a monthly deal like we had for some artists in the past. Instead, we'll be offering the following deals:

• If you draw a picture of Sage, Sechs, or Rags (or any combination of the three), you'll earn adspace for any amount of time up to two months. This means that you have essentially free reign to draw Sage, Sechs, and/or Rags how you see fit. (Obviously, we're not going to be comfortable with our characters being drawn in certain situations or doing certain things; if it seems questionable, please ask beforehand.)
• If you draw one of our special requests, you'll earn adspace for any amount of time up to four months. This means, however, that you're going to have to draw a specific idea from one of us.

This time around, we're not going to decide how long an ad will run by the quality/color content of the image (no more "black and white gets you two months, full color gets you four months"); instead, you'll decide exactly how long you want your ad to run. If you want it to run for just a couple of weeks, or the full timeframe you've earned, it will be entirely your decision. Per previous standards, the ad must be a 600x98 banner, and it can only be for sites/projects/products that you, the artist, are directly involved in (your FA page, an art auction, a paysite, etc).

Per previous standards, any artist listed as being completely DNP on this site is ineligible for this deal.

Reference material for Sage, Sechs, and Ragnarok can be found here: http://dammitfreehaven.com/photo/fanart/
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>> No. 84 ID: e12142
>>83

We don't make revenue from the site AT ALL. Sechs pays for the hosting out of her own pocket; we get the hosting for a pretty good price from cho0b (he who runs wtfux and Lulz.net). Our adspace is strictly an "art for ads" deal. Despite my *ahem* loose stance on copyrights and such, even I would feel pretty bad if we used the board (which, for all intents and purposes, runs off the back of other people's content) to make money for ourselves.

Since neither Sechs nor myself are artists (and I think that Rags would fall under that qualifier as well), we decided that having people do pics for us would be a better way to offer adspace on the board.
>> No. 86 ID: 9e2c26
>>84
>I would feel pretty bad if we used the board to make money for ourselves.

Well duh. But it seems weird to me to still have ads even if you don't need or use them to keep from operating at a loss. The main reason I've learned to tolerate Internet ads in general is that I know they're necessary to keep the bulk of the Internet running.

But then, I guess online advertising did start as people just swapping ads for free to cross-promote the sites they still ran at a loss. So I'll shut up now.

...Say, if I were to draw art of any of your characters, would I get to use my ad space to make the site ad-free for a week or so?
>> No. 87 ID: e12142
>>86

>But it seems weird to me to still have ads even if you don't need or use them to keep from operating at a loss.

It's our way of doing something nice for the artists who post around here. We don't HAVE to have ads on the site; we do it because we want to.

>Say, if I were to draw art of any of your characters, would I get to use my ad space to make the site ad-free for a week or so?

Uh...seeing as how that defeats the purpose of us having the adspace in the first place, I'm gonna have to say no on that.
>> No. 90 ID: e09c89
I should note, the gallery page has changed location.

http://dammitfreehaven.com/news.php?p=gallery


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89 No. 89 ID: 6826ce hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
(I saw no rules directly stating against this, but I am sorry if I missed it in ignorance)

Salutations.

I myself am not an artist, but I am pitching on behalf of one, a Ms. BaldDumboRat. The image posted here is one I commissioned from the artist herself (I apologize for the poor quality, FA's upload system mucked it up).

She is trying to get funds for moving and has offered up spots to be in a calander that she is making. Spots will be open for that on May 01, 2010. Until then she is offering other kinds of deals to help rake in funds.

The Journal:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1344264/

Her commissioning terms and pricing information:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1251576/

Almost No subject is taboo to her, so anything from the light and fluffy to the dark and twisted is up for grabs. If you need proof of how far she likes to go, look here, but this might not be for the faint of heart:
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41 No. 41 ID: eab77a hide watch expand quickreply   [Reply]
just wanted to let people know I'm open for commissions.
Sketches, inked, paintings, full-sized and high resolution print works with background or not.

prices may vary from eu. 50 to 200 following the time i will spend on it, but the professional result is guaranteed.
to contact me :
msn/email > darkdoomer@free.fr
aim > darkdoomer


galleries :
http://darkdoomer.deviantart.com/
http://www.e621.net/post?tags=nowhereincoming&searchDefault=Search
[ kayanamasha on fa ]

pic related.
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>> No. 43 ID: ff6bc4
>>41
I must say that the picture you posted is very good. I believe I'll have to look at your drawings and consider your offer.
>> No. 45 ID: c7d741
Check your email DD !
>> No. 73 ID: 043717
Hello Dark!

Your style is interesting so I would hire you, I think it's a good thing to support and encourage not-so-known artists yet I gotta ask you some info :

Pricing list, Id like to see a public list like how much you ask for a lineart, sketch or colors ( I think $40 could be a fair amount )

Set up a commission queue, knowing your previous commissioners and the ones you are working on

Do you accept porn requests? ;)

What reference materials are used? pose or photographs for the background?

What is your policy about the commission's final uses? I wish to have the exclusivity for some internet business a nd I will need a LOT of artists. The goal is to promote your art first!

Thank you in advance for your answers!
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>>73
no. also, want to contact me, read again : darkdoomer@free.fr
you cannot claim the exclusivity of an artwork you have not created, or if you want to use the said material for **commercial purposes** and not a personal use for anyone here, hmm. you know, you will need to make a better offer.


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79 No. 79 ID: 6434cf hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
Ahoy. So, I've recently started a sort of commission auction type deal on my FA journal, here:

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1204445/

Basically, I've got three slots open for single character pinups that I'm auctioning on my journal. Drop by, take a peek, help a SlowBro out. With the amount of interest I've generated so far, you could probably bid the minimum bid of $50 and get yourself a slot.


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