>>14240
Shitty family life =/= excuse for being a homewrecking slut

I just realized something in Original Life that I never noticed before.

Did anyone else notice that the only child of Fisk's that is intelligent is also the one of "Jewish" features.

Har-Har nice little in joke there Naylor.

My earlier optimism of an, albeit badly, layered character was actually shattered when I realized that there are only two ways this can end.

A.) A stern talking-to from Fisk that fixes everything, including Red's emotional baggage which will then never resurface because the Randian Mangod said so.

or

B.) A stern dicking-to from fisk that fixes everything, including Red's emotional baggage which will then never resurface because the Randian Dunecock said so.

>>14240

You know this would have been a slightly interesting strip and character portrayal if it wasn't out of context for a "light hearted" story.

Tip: If you want it to be light swearing is fine on occasion but the f-bomb should be avoided unless it's used in a very humorous way.

It's strange. It's like there was so little meaning to this strip that it didn't happen at all.

>>14244

Totally this. God, Naylor is so bad at writing dialogue it's like he's never actually spoken to another person, and only knows about verbal interaction between people from watching daytime soap operas where the characters constantly say aloud what they're feeling and repeatedly explain each other's backstories for the benefit of new viewers just tuning in.

And hot damn that's some pungent melodrama. Feels like he ripped that tone straight from one of the police drama parodies on South Park.

My forehead flew into my palm so fast I think I broke my hand.

What the hell is this? This is such broken logic. Is Red retarded? What kind of person consciously projects her views of reality on the rest of the world so openly and defiantly?

Unconsciously maybe but consciously?

Red is as screwed in the head as Mitsuko from Battle Royale! So far not one single frame with her in it has shown her acting like a mature or reasonable adult. Just a stupid home wrecking bitch! Aaarrugh! Is this what Naylor had planned for her all along? All these years of her exsistance and THIS is all he has to show for it?

My God! She is the worst character ever!

Also I think Naylor misses Better Days. And I gotta admit I miss the stupid drama too. At least it was interesting. For a short time I can kinda see certain BD characteristics seeping in to OL. I wonder how long Naylor will try to hold it off.

>>14240
I facepalmed.

then I remembered that this is supposed to be "more lighthearted" or whatever bullshit.

then I lol'd.

oh, and I love how he said both fuck and shit in one strip of a supposedly family-friendly comic.

chalk up another fail for naylor.

>>14259

Naylor assumes everyone has a family similar to Al Bundy's.

>>14254
>All these years of her exsistance and THIS is all he has to show for it?

Just wait until the pornfolio, then all you'll get to see is her backside besieged by Dune-Cock.

>>14259
I find it hard to believe that Naylor thinks that this is a 'family friendly' comic when right in the page header is a shot of four women's arses in panties.

>>14263

Don't forget the ad for his adult catalog right next to the comic, and the listing for said catalog in the site menu.

>>14247
It's Naylor we're talking about, here. It could only be 2. He's done it before; molested child shags Fisk.

>>14240

*Shrugs* At least the mouse actually has some balls to tell Red what she's doing is crap. But still, the idea of 'skeletons' in a family is generally seen as a bad thing, right? So why does Red want to be one of these skeletons?

Red's line of thinking doesn't make sense - it's like she (although I think all the Original Life: No Life Consequences characters do as well) has some kind of mental disorder. I'm too lazy to pick up my psychology textbook and find out which one, but still. Bitch be crazy.

I think I understand why there's no background in the CIA building. IT's such a covert building that it blends into sheer nothingness, presumably to stop ninjas in their tracks.

More plausible reason: Naylors a lazy cunt

>>14240

Jay Naylor suffers from Premature Literary Ejaculation. Writing is like sex. Hell, most things are like sex. Gratification tends to be at its best through a drawn out process of stimulation or build up until finally you just can't hold back and you got your climax.

Rather than have Red get testy and defensive about her colleague's world view, letting us all, even if we can predict it, sit and go "wow, what's with this bitch?" he just can't help but wank all over the page when things have just started. "She had a bad childhood! OHHH!! Yeah... was it good for you?"

I suppose you could say the real tension of this arc is "well...is Fisk gonna fuck her?" Because I guess it's not a foregone conclusion, especially if it gives the Rambo cat a page to lecture in about his superior morals... and you might be right, but really the tension right now since this arc started is between these co-workers on whether it's right to pursue someone that is already engaged in a relationship with another.

Red is obviously the "whateva whateva, I do what I want" side.. and her associate is the "omg that's horrible! How could you even consider it?" side..And that's more interesting right now than whether or not Red even gets in Fisk's pants in the end, which she may not and then all that talk about cheating is meaningless.

Which would be very fitting with how this comic tends to pan out.


Anyway it's 3:30am and I can't believe I bothered.

>>14266

Agreed. I had a friend in college who was raised by a single mother. She tortured and sexually abused him, then hunted for him after he ran away from home. He was a hell of a nice guy, fun to be around, got married and is now an English teacher in Japan.

Red's got something wrong with her head. But Naylor wants us to believe that a woman who grows up without the Randian god-man will, for the rest of her life, be desperate for him the moment she gets a taste.

"He who controls the dunecock controls the universe!"

>>14269
EWWW!

I hate to say it, but the odds that Naylor will do a sex scene with Red and Fisk are very high. The odds that Elizabeth will be in there are 50/50 due to the fact that Fisk is "loyal" to his wife, so the sex scene will be either a Fantasy or a Dream.

>>14257

Was there ever a difference between this and Better Days save for he just felt like doing a 10 years later and change the title? He's given you as little information about what happened to the characters in his fast forward as he has in the comic strip current itself. Not difference.

>>14266

I find it funny that the mouse, who's working for a secret agency within the US that allows the killing of criminals without trial on American soil, has a sense of morals concerning employees personal lives. I mean, she's concerned about his children and wife, YET, they keep him away from his children and wife longer than he's actually with this children and wife.

>>14240

As much as I hate to say it, this isn't too bad. At least Naylor is trying to give Red a sympathetic motivation for what she's doing, even though I doubt he has the skill to pull it off. It's a refreshing change from all the one-dimensional strawmen who have no reason for existence other than to be pathetic and stupid. However, I can't get my mind around how her childhood and her seduction attempts are connected; did her poor upbringing cause her to hate families and now she seeks to destroy them? Sounds a little like Rachel's motivation in No Remorse. Also, since Red's lusting after Fisk is presented as a bad thing, I think it will just end with Fisk giving her a Man-God speech now.

The artwork is a mixed bag. Red looks slightly more detailed than usual and we get something that resembles actual expressions on their faces. But it's really annoying that in the first panel, the mouse (has she been given a name yet) is standing up from where she's been sitting, but there is no sight of a chair or a table; even though one of her hands is supposed to be used for support it dissapears just out of panel. Is it really that damn difficult to just draw a white rectangle to represent a table, or any indication that she's interacting with objects in the environment at all? And her face in the first and third panel almost seems photocopied from one another.

>>14274

That IS funny, but it's exactly the kind of incoherent double standard real people would employ.

Red's logic to me: "someone screwed up my family life when I was younger so now I want to be the one who screws up someone else's."

Brilliant.

Elizabeth cheated her man with FISK the mangod.

Now Red either gets a lesson on family values or a good dicking...

How Failor wanted to do it originally.

Frankly, IMO it's a positive development OL regresses into BD. Enough with boring jokes stolen from "Ozy and Millie", "Kevin and Kell" or whatever and drivel about the joys of atheism, let there be CHEATING! MURDER! !!! DRAMA !!!

>>14277

True.

>>41279
Did you make it uncensored?

>>14282
I really should proof-read who I'm replying to if I'm typing it manually. I meant >>14279.
How do I re-enable scripts? None of the click-reply things are working for me.

Let's just hope he keeps this little "arc" going. Very unlikely though since he's much more likely to sidetrack, AGAIN.

I think that Jay maybe half took onboard that he was making almost all his characters boring fucks, so he made Red a slut.

Unfortunatly, now all hope of Red being a fun character in the future is shattered and if he's going to be doing a pornfolio with her in it's not going to be good, to me at least. I will not be able to read it if I hate her fucking bitchy character.

I almost wish for another Rachel...

>>14283

Don 't recall where I got that from.

>>14283

Don 't recall where I got that from.

>>14286
>>14287

The uncensored version of that particular strip is from Naylor's sketch blog.

>>14274

The people that do bad things still think of themselves as people. Any "The guvment is going to take my guns away so I'll stockpile weapons and SHOOT ANY MOTHERFUCKER THAT COMES IN HERE" has morals. As do them suicide bombers.

The difference is: in their view, they ARE moral. They are doing the RIGHT thing. That those morals are JUSTIFIED. They are not amoral, not CARING. Naylor has the opinion that Fisk is a PATRIOT, not a horrible fucking monster.

The fact that he's turning Red into a horrible, flat caricature actually makes me kinda like her. I'm sympathetic towards her because I want to see her destroy Fisk's family.

With that in mind, I improved the dialog.

Did Naylor ACTUALLY say "Family Friendly"?

Otherwise, folks are confusing "Light hearted" with "Clean and wholesome". Light hearted to me just means that the comic won't take itself seriously and won't focus on DRAMA. It would be a joke comic and a fairly Sitcommy like webcomic, as oppose to Soap Opera-y like BD.

>>14240

Face in second panel creeps me out. Nice touch with the crappily drawn anime breath-effect, Naylor.

Also, apparently having a "shitty life" = fuck a married man after taking him awsy from his wife.

10 months ago, Naylor wrote the following in his journal about Original Life...

>>in future pages, and trying to do a better job establishing setting and scenery

Since strip 50, only 7 out of the 38 strips have anything coming close to backgrounds. Way to go.

And on another note, how the Hell did we get here from Janie receiving a secret letter? I know real life doesn't have beginnings and ends, but that's why we watch TV and read. We like to see coherent plots with beginnings, middles and ends. Naylor has started so many plots this chapter that he's actually forgotten some of them.

>>14298
Wow. So much better.
And it's not up to the cliff edge of that horrible Bold and the Beautiful dramatics.

>>14298

Much better then the original and makes tons more sense.

>>14310

And on another note, how the Hell did we get here from Janie receiving a secret letter?

Much like the argument between Liz and her mother, Charlie's apparent attraction to Miko, Miko herself (that was last September, and she's since been in one panel), Angelica's global warming walk, and the gymnastics meet we saw for two whole pages, the letter was (likely) never intended to be explained or expanded upon--it was a catalyst for other "greater" plot points.

Elabourating: without the argument, Liz wouldn't have had a painfully obvious reason to bring up religion with Fisk at the convenient gymnastics meet, where Janie was in the spotlight. Without the letter, Janie wouldn't have the conversation with Charlie and Angelica, which led to Angelica trying to "open Janie's mind" and Janie dismissing it as batshit crazy moonspeakings, then dismissing Christianity in her conversation with Samantha and Stacy; that dovetailed about as gracefully as a quadriplegic ballet dancer to the walk with her father.

Naylor does not seem to have any skill at establishing plot. He brings elements in and out so fast his text editor is probably screaming "rape". The Original Life Mantra should really be "expect nothing from things that seem important, and you shall receive it in abundance".

>>14325

>>-it was a catalyst for other "greater" plot points.

Wow, really? That's just really horrible writing. Secondary plots are called that because they come second. The primary plot should be detailed first, then the other plots branch off from that, but should still relate; like the branches of a tree. Naylor's 'tree' is growing in reverse. Even still, the primary plot should not be forgotten and should be the main focus of the story throughout. I can see why some people call him Failor. His writing style is atrocious.

Obligatory.

>>14240

I just stopped by to read this thread today, but did anyone else notice that the mouse's head is copy pasted from the first panel into the third panel?

>>14338

Yeah, I did; I mentioned something about it in my post. I don't think they're actually photocopied though. The hair looks slightly different and the eyes seem a little...

Now that I look at it again, yeah, it might very well be copy pasted.

>>14240
The white mouse-cat-thing girl is by far the most likable character in any of Jay's comics.

>>14338
Naylor does that a lot

Anyways I think it will end by Fisk talking to Red that she should start looking at herself and start loving herself and then start looking for a man to tell her what she should do.

Even though she's a complete slag, Red has very cute hair. Shame she's a bitch.