apparently leo has spidey sense.

I really don't understand exactly why she hates him enough to chuck a ball at him...

>>8608
It's because being nice to people and letting old grudges go is the antithesis of objectivism

And Janie DID get the two-piece after all. So much for Elizabeth.

Also: stumpy fingers are stumpy.

>>8609

It's also so that Objectivist Surfer Shota can do a sandy version of Taming Of The Shrew.

You know, Better Days and the earlier part of its continuation had gotten so predictable and lame that I'd almost gotten to where I felt pity and boredom more than anything. That reached its peak with the "He must be destroyed!" comic.

I think this one might actually be bringing me back to the old days of actively hating this shit. ... Just doesn't seem like as much fun as it used to be, though.

>>8611
You can only put so much energy into hating something before you realize that you have probably put more energy into the comic than the creator has.

>>8612

THIS!

>>8609

Oh, I get it now.

So she wants to 'destroy' him for growing up and is still pissed about him chasing her with a sea slug when she was six... That's pretty fucking stupid.

>>8605

What the fuck is up with Leo's neck in the third panel?

>>8605

First panel: Fuck, I can't get over how shitty this is. Janie looks worst than Ozy and Millie. But I guess that's what Jay wants me to focus on, because once again - surprise, surprise - no background.

Second panel: Shitty attempt at speed lines. I get it, she hit the ball, you don't need to go mystical moving pictures from the Land of the Rising Sun on me. In fact, the lines make it seem like the ball is coming to her, not going away from her.

Third panel: Yeah, I see where you're going with this. Fuck, you cannot be original, can you? Just let him get hit! It'd be funny, it'd show he isn't a god, and it'd be original - you know, like the title of the comic! But no, I guess you guess you want to show how much of a joke the title is and how big of an idiot you really are, so, let's just get this over with.

Fourth panel: Spider-Man...

Fifth panel: Solid Snake...

Sixth panel: And James Bond are all pussies compared to surfer dude. HE IS A GOD AMONG MEN!

Seventh panel: You didn't even try with this. Same pose as the first panel, Thomas looks like a balloon, surfer dude is trying too hard to be cool, and both boys don't know how to speak. It just goes to show that you're a hack and a loser.

This a new low for OL.

>>mystical moving pictures from the Land of the Rising Sun

Awesome word filter :)

It was either this or a sex joke.

Fourth panel...

Also, what the fuck is up with Leo in panel 3? Does he cower or temporarily transform into an sheep/duck mutant?

Btw, did Failor pull this strip by now or is just my PC fucking with me? <_<

>>8612

Naylor and energy is like terrorism and freedom.

>>8623

Still there, just hasn't been released yet. You can see future strips by checking the directory for the pictures on his site.

>>8623

It took me FOREVER To figure out, but I think he's in the water. I didn't actually get it by looking at that frame (You'd think I should be able to), but by looking at the last one trying to figure out the background and realizing that they were in a half that was supposed to be water.

That was too much brain power wasted on something that should just be something you see

>>8625

Where's the directory?

>>8627

>>It took me FOREVER To figure out, but I think he's in the water.

Holy shit, you're right. I thought he was squatting in the sand for some reason, and Naylor had fucked up his tail and swim trunks.

We need a grenade edit of this comic.

"She's calling you out."

Leo's respomse: "Mmm."

Conclusion: Kissing cousins imminent.

>>8632
Naylor did say "No more Incest"

But then again, watersports recently got a revival. so who can tell?

>>8628

http://www.jaynaylor.com/originallife/comic/

>>8631
Better, possibly?

>>8640
DAMN YOU BLUE SHELLS!

>>8639
Holy shit, I haven't seen the Demented Cartoon Movie in years. I actually lol'd.

>>8639

Excellent.

Dammit, I wish I had the time to do a River City Ransom shoop, if only for someone to say 'BARF!' when hit.

I just can't get over how bad the art is now. The faces, the bodies, the hands - so unattractive now. How can he not see this decline in his skill? And he said he was improving and changing his style - bullshit. Maybe he's just getting too old to draw like he used to.

Its eaiser to get away with copy-pasta with his new methods, as he can inter-chage a great deal of the characters around, opposed to the former days when they were a little more unique and creative

>>8649

To be fair, he DID change his style... while you might not care for it, the style itself doesn't bother me. It looks a little more anime-ish, maybe (which I'm guessing is what Naylor is shooting for).

Honestly, the art is the least of this comic's problems. As soon as the dialog stops making my brain cry I'll start worrying about the art.

>>8662"As soon as the dialog stops making my brain cry I'll start worrying about the art."

And here I respond with the very obvious statement of: You'll be waiting for a very long time.

Like I said, very obvious, but that doesn't make the statement any less true.

>>8649

Her head is huge

>>8649
Agreed. I mean. What are those things on the ends of Janie's attempt at arms?! NOODLES?!
I wasn't around when Better Days started, but looking back... Man, I really miss the slightly sketchy art, I mean. BACKGROUNDS!

3rd panel no face o_0 4th panel the sound effects looks like "fuck fuck"

>>8671
Jay Naylor always drew lanky figures, this is nothing new. Problem is lacking feet/hands/fingers/toes and general expressions. Jay Naylor isn't a great artist, but not the worst either. More or less the writing is what irritates the fuck out of me.

Flounce man, fucking Flounce. >:I

So...Fisk lets his kids watch R-rated movies?

>>8689
I wouldn't really go so far as to complain about that. Terminator at this point is so pop culture referenced that even people who have never seen the movie know the meaning behind it.

I'm more annoyed that this is more or less just a set up of one dimensional kid A versus one dimensional kid B.

>>8689

There's something very off in the last panel...
Why does the water looks like it's a cheap paper cut off and Thomas is standing right behind it and Lucy's kid is in front of it?

Failor once again proves his drawing skills are truly fading away...

>>8689
... No words to express my utter disgust.

>>8689
Why does Jay think that girls cannot play football? ...

>>8689
Shouldn't Objectivist Surfer Shota's hair be wet? It looks like he's still rocking a perm.

>>8689

Heh. I first "watched" (read: peeked through my fingers in fright at) Aliens when I was about 4. Definitely saw Terminator before 10. So, I don't really have a problem with that issue.

What I do have a problem with is Leo's face in that last panel. We've seen that expression in Naylor's work about, what, a billion times? And I'm not sure why, but never has it been so irritating. I don't know what it is, but something about this particular instance makes me wanna peel his face off and set him on fire.

<giggle>

>>8696

Gotta be more careful with that fill tool, Jay.

Did anybody else randomly read Fisk Jr.'s voice with that of Beast Boy's?

>>8693

It's not entirely unreasonable to assume she hasn't played football, very few schools/communities have girls football teams and they are discouraged from joining the 'normal' all boys one.

>>8702

And I bet there are few girls interested in football in order for them to actually PLAY it against one another.

Kids playing football on their own, you'd have to have a neighborhood of tomboy sports enthusiasts.

Failor did as ever a bang-up job.

>>8704

MOAR, as they say.

>>8704

You are full of win and cookies!

>>8704

Brava!
Brava.

>>8704

I'd love to see this for every page.

Seriously.

>>8689
thomas' mouth in the last panel reminds me of darla from finding nemo for some reason.

I tried sketching Janie from the first panel (tossing the volleyball) to highlight a few things that bugged me. Her right shoulder should be higher than her left since it's holding the ball and you wouldn't see the back of her hand unless she was holding it straight out in front of her. I know Naylor is going for a style with the hands but the truncated fingers just look weird, especially the thumbs. I also drew her standing in the ocean to show an easy method of drawing water; a series of waves with the reflection of the person between them. The water might 'break' around the legs if going fast enough (shown) or if the person was moving, but you wouldn't get waves around the legs. I’m not a professional but I just felt like taking a crack at it.

>>8715
You know what's weird about this? These characters drawn by other people make them loli/shota awesome.

>>8698
No, But I did read Leo with some weird Hawaiian surfer accent, complete with "brah" to end his sentences.

>>8715 That's pretty good!

I demand your art skills, good Anon!

>>8718

What'd you say, brah?

This may be the first time I say this, but this page acuatlly was humorous. They actually sound like kids for once on this, one page.

>>8729
I know right? Once they brought in Abby and started getting pseudo-intellectual then got rather potty-mouthed (for such young kids mind you,Tomas is 8 but speaks like he is 23)it kind of diminished the slight charm they would have. I don't think Naylor has been around kids much if at all. Figure he is probably an only child.

No, they don't sound like kids. At least, Leo doesn't.

"The greater the challenge, the greater the victory"? No child talks like that. NONE. Adnd "I guess surfing lessons will have to wait". No. Child. Talks. Like. That. He talks like he's an ancient master of cool-fu.

>>8742

>"I guess surfing lessons will have to wait". No. Child. Talks. Like. That.

Okay, that's stretching it a little. You saying that no child talks like that, I mean.

>>8743

IMO, kids are a little more ADD than, well, being so aware of it all. A normal kid would have... not forgotten, so much as not pay attention to what they WERE doing now that they've been CHALLENGED TO VOLLEYBALL.

A kid can certainly have the sentiment, but it would sound more natural like this: "Guess we'll have to do this later OK?"

>>8742
>>8746
Believe it or not, some kids are more comfortable with the English language than you might think, especially if he was growing up with SuperNerd and the Randian Slut Goddess as parents. How old is he supposed to be anyway because I'm guessing somewhere around 10-12.

Now if he's supposed to be like 8 then toss the previous statement out the window.

>>8702
Man American football is weird, Aussie Rules is so much better :D

Well, it was going to happen eventually...

>>8751

There's rules?

>>8747

Yeah, Leo's first sentence sounds like the wool (=wannabe cool) smut talk even ten year-olds are able to come up with. His second one sounds like your typical pretentious Failorean mindfuck only cardboard characters of the Large Ham variety would utter.

>>I will smother your forces and achieve my greatest victory! FEAR MY MIGHT!

As for Fisk Jr. ... Well, he is a retard, the shit he says doesn't have to make sense, no matter in which age context. The second panel is the most aggravating example. "Jock with pigtails"? Are you shitting me?

>>8753

At first I thought that was a young Lucy and Leo, and my mind was blown.

>>8753
All ready happened. >>6648

Jew Mouse looks fat in the last panel.

The eyes. Must. Be. Fixed.

>>8762

I don't think she looks that bad. All in all, I actually can't complain too much on this one. I mean, Janie looks like she's floating, and Leo's mouth could swallow a car, but it's been far worse.

>>8762

It's the ever-changing size ears! Also, Elizabeth needs a tummy tuck. Oh fuck it, she's mutated from her earlier incarnation.

>>8762
Wait wait wait.

They've been playing 1-on-1 volleyball for 20 minutes... and have only scored 3 points each?

lolwut

>>8765

Yeah, really. How slow are they to serve, or how shitty are their serves that they keep losing them?

Unless Naylor is insinuating that they had ridiculous rallies, which is just stupid.

>>8765
Depends on what rules they're playing by. In junior high school we played indoor volleyball using a rule where you could only score if you served that rally. Considering that junior high kids, myself included, generally suck ass at volleyball defense, it made so that games didn't end in three minutes.

Though given this is Naylor, it's probably the "ridiculous rallies" that he's going for.

Janie looks like she's going super sayan.

>>8762

Meh.

>>8762

Her trajectory is going to put her right into the net.

Is it just me or are his ears funny looking?

>>8753
What the fuck?! Who the shit made that?! It's so wrong! It should be Thomas she's lickin' off.

>>8762
Why do I get the feeling that Tommy will be rubbing himself to Fisk's eldest tonight? I mean, look at his eyes, he's undeniably horny for her.

>>8771

Yup. Her hyooj head is going to smack right into the lower part of the net and swing her body right underneath it.

With any luck, we could get something spectacular, like her spinning all the way around to land on her front, or getting a foot caught in the net and swinging back and forth.

Also, you notice how Elizabeth's gotten mom-spread almost to grandmotherly proportions? Unlike Sheila, who always looked like a softcore porn star despite squeezing out two kids, and Lucy who looks the same as she did when they were all twenty, as do Fisk and "Tom".

I guess in the Naylorverse, only Jewish people age or show the effects of childbirth.

>>8762
and here we have an excellent example of devoting an entire page to not advancing the plot.

>>8776

I don't think its meant to be that way. He just drew her lazily.

Considering that she shat out three Randian God children whose egos spread her vaginal walls to the upper limits of smooth muscles' tensile strength I'm not surprised she is much bigger than Lucy who only shat out one and he is only half Randian God child because Tommy used to be an unenlightened Catholic. Also eating Fisk's copious Randian God semen had to have packed on a few extra pounds.

>>8779

So.. Fisk spunk is fattening?

Isn't semen in general made up of sugars?

>>8785

I thought it was proteins.

>>8762
I somehow get the feeling that when "Tom" says bets that Fisk is thinking of how long before those two are gonna have their own relationship. I can imagine that he'd bet them to be sleeping together that night instead of a few years time.

>>8785
>>8786
You're both right, it contains fructose and proteins among other things.

Predicting underage cousin on cousin sex in 15 or less pages, who's with me?!

Despite its composition, there's no real nutrition to sperm. It's like, drinking milk with an eye dropper.

>>8788

The sperm doesn't fall far from the cock?

>>8704

Fuck you, it was still funny. Even as bad as it was. They are cartoons they are not always anatomically correct.

(And nothing of value was lost.)

>>8762

Is it just me or is Fisk's wife getting kinda fat?

>>8791
You say that like it hasn't already happened.

>>8800
We all know what happened when Flounce wasn't looking. Or maybe not...

"You must be someone special, I've never seen Fisk bring anyone home before." *Yeah, we always do it at my place.*

>>8762

IT'S TRUE! THE TRUTH IS OUT! Janie is not Fisk's Daughter, Elizabeth cheated on Fisk when he was away on one of his man missions.

What you say? Why do you say such a thing? Well simply. The evidence is right there on the page. Look at that verticle on that girl. Everybody know's that white jew cat's can't jump.

This just struck me: If Liz is wearing a one-piece, why was she wearing a two-piece in the previous comics she was in?

>>8815
Because Naylor is never consistent with anything

>>8813
Yeah but Elizabeth is the Jew so if she cheated then it wouldn't make things better. In fact, Fisk's Randian Mangod semen obviously overpowered her pathetic Jew woman genes.

I look forward to this suspense-laden tail's continuation tomorrow.

YES.

>>8828

I honestly can't read a lot of the red text. Perhaps an easier color next time, if it's not too much trouble?

And we round out this thread with yet another shitty-as-fuck joke.

>>8843

I'm not sure if I'm laughing at the fail-tastic joke or at the CONSTANT LACK OF MOUTHS FFFFFFF

>>8842
I think any color is going to be difficult simply because the text passes over multiple image elements, and lines behind it make it hard to read.

I suggest he keep the red, but add a black outline. It won't block out as much of the image as adding colored text boxes, so we can still see what he's talking about, but should still isolate the text from the lines crisscrossing behind it.

>>8843
Also, the super-sport kids continue to suck at volleyball.

Just seeing her face. Sheila looks kinda ew. but she is supposed to be old. Thomas on the other hand doesn't look a day older since we last saw him.

>>8843

Copy/paste is your friend. Geez, could have at least changed the expressions of he adults in last panel to look as bored as we are at looking at this. YAWN.

>>8843

1) that looks nothing like Shiela - then again, it's probably just Naylor's shift in style since the last time he drew Shiela which was like a thousand years ago

2) why is shiela wearing a sweater to the beach

also naylor doesn't know how to age characters. Lines under the eyes and constant sweater wearing = old apparently.

>>8848

And is Lucy ever going to put that god damned esky down?

>>8846

I'd like to build on this... In a game like volleyball where matches are decided relatively quickly, even on a professional level, the joke becomes ridiculous, especially over the course of a weeks worth of submissions.

No story is moved. Nothing interesting is learned. Everyone's time is wasted.

Why would I read this garbage some might ask? Because damnit, every time I read a Naylor comic, I feel like I can make better comics and I'm even inspired to do so.

I always burst into a room with a flat expression on my face while announcing my arrival.

Also, it's nice that Fisk's mom appears old and frumpy while his stepdad looks to be just approaching middle age.

>>8854

To be fair, men age a lot more gracefully than women in most cases. Not sure why.

>>8855

Yeah, but the guy still looks like he's coaching a high school basketball team.

>>8856

Yeah, he looks pretty much no different than he did in Better Days.

>>8843
... What the fuck did he do to Sheila... What. The. Fuck.
... I miss mouths. :/

>>8849

I would imagine it's quite difficult to depict the aging of a character whose skin is completely covered in fur, especially in a B&W comic with a simplified art style.

Men don't age more gracefully but wrinkles are almost a status symbol in men whereas in women they detract from beauty. Sexism at it's finest but I doubt many will argue the point.

Elizabeth has such a midget hand I just

>>8843

Regarding the last two panels: Can anyone tell me what species (besides Tommy) everyone is? I can't even tell if it's cat or mouse or dog or what.

>>8843
Ctrl+C Ctrl+V

>>8843

"Looks like they've been playing a real long time!"

"Couldn't be any longer than the story the writer's dragging out!"

"DOHHHHHHHHHH HOHOHOHOHOHOHO!"

>>8866

Four cats (Tom, Sheila, Lucy and Fisk), a rabbit (Tommy), and a mouse (Elizabeth).

>>8843
since naylor's reusing his jokes, I'm going to reuse this comment. >>8777

>>8870

*golf clap*

>>8843

Elizabeth seems to keep seeing something out of the corner of her eye in the sky... that or she's about to cross some sort of road.

...are you telling me they didn't even eat in all that time, seeing as Lucy's holding the basket both in the third AND fourth panel?

>>8877

There's nothing to indicate that they didn't move at all. They probably asked to be passed some food and ate it whislt standing there and staring.

>>8879

And then picked up what they were holding before and resumed their exact same positions? Just how far are you willing to reach?

>>8843

Sheila's gasp occurred when the sports-cousins started having sex... hence the onomatopoeia, and the relatives staring in shock for hours. (Also Tommy's hard-on, which is hidden by the panel cutoff.)

>>8843

It's a sight gag, folks. The thing being that the only thing that changed is the lighting, indicating that they've been there for a long time staring at the same thing without any change in the game. C'mon now.

>>8880

The only one who seems to be holding anything is Lucy, and she seems to be holding the food, so nobody would have to move from their spot. She'd just pass it down to whoever asked.

As for their stances... well okay, now that would be reaching, except for Tommy and Fisk, who are sitting. But it's a gag so who cares. I dunno why we're even debating.

Anyway, considering someone on this board once insinuated that Beth telling Aron to get the door was racially insensitive, I'd say the limits for reaching when it comes to Naylor and this board are quite a ways out there. After all, we are discussing the works of a guy whose main character is a spy who prefers grenades to keeping a low profile.

>>8882
M Coyote is credit to team!

>>8882
Nice. On another note, how on earth you would make a video game of that strange story?

>>8887
*would you (wow, I cannot seem to spell today)

>>8843
... Elizabeth's mouth to hand to eye ratio... ... ... ... ...

>>8887
Would? Did! And it's a lot of fun!

I noticed something.

Where's Thomas and Abby? Did they drown?

>>8922

They're off-panel, doing things Jay's saving for a future pornfolio.

Sins of the father...