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The upcoming board change Sechs Fuckheaven!Bitchalicious 15/12/09(Tue)13:02 No. 537 ID: 7f9e97

Plotting Puck is... mostly unrelated.

Sage and I have been talking and agreed that shortly after the new year, we're going to be doing a fairly major revamp on the site's boards. We try to avoid doing so too often because we don't want to get into that "a hundred boards and they all change every month" thing some other sites do.

But basically, it feels like our current setup has found a murky place between having too many boards and too few, and has resulted in some subjects, boards, and so on getting left in the dust. For example, we didn't want to make an anime-only board because it was too specific... but because anime isn't in the title or general theme of /currant/, when someone makes a post about anime there, it gets drowned out under stuff about movies and TV shows and miscellaneous crap. The same thing kind of happens on /pr0n/, /dammit/, /wtfur/, etc.

We're also going to be looking at some boards and the annoyance/return value factor. Frankly, /use/ is up on the chopping block... while it makes for a valuable stance Sage and I both believe in (free speech), it also causes a lot of aggravation for everyone involved... just too much arguing and fighting and crap like that. If it was a thriving, bustling hive of constant debate, discussion, or even flaming, it would probably stay regardless of how much negativity it caused... but it's turned slow and stagnant of late. With so little activity, and so many political blogs out there and other image boards that allow it as a subject, it becomes harder to justify having it.

Anyway, right now Sage and I are still discussing what to do about the site revamp. Here's what we know for sure:

* Probably more than one board is going away. /currant/ and /pr0n/ will be revamped at the very least.
* There will be a new section, for personal boards. Sage will have one, I'll have one, Rags will have one, and we may offer them to other site regulars and friends. Basically this will be for each of us to have a place to post topics and subjects we're interested in. Kind of livejournalish, but hey, favoritism and privilege are part of the reasons people make their own goddamn sites.
* None of the Artist Alley boards are in danger. While we'd like to see them get more traffic, the traffic they do get is worthwhile, generally. /write/ is here to stay.

Things that have been brought up, that are currently simply possibilities:

* No more /use/. And there was much rejoicing on lulz.
* A general purpose animation/comics board. Yes, like the old days. Anime, manga, cartoons, comics, all that. Not worksafe, but not for porn.
* /pr0n/ could stay as it is, or get divided up into separate sections (for drawn and real people)
* The return of a board for "personal" stuff. Possibly /lj/ or /blahblah/ or something like that.
* /dammit/ and /wtfur/ may get reorganized and repurposed. Obviously "segregation of art and story discussion" didn't work out very well. This may be a matter of "if it's talking about the story, the art, the characters, it goes in one, if it's just saying how everything sucks, it goes in the other". Furry webcomics would probably also move to the theoretical "animation" forum and leave /dammit/ geared more towards just art.

Right now, there's a lot up in the air and under discussion. You have roughly three weeks to have your say. What you think of the proposed changes, what your preferences on the boards are, what you want saved or axed.

Just remember, we're trying to keep the selection of boards like a woman's skirt (outside of hentai)... long enough to cover everything, short enough to keep it interesting. ("Everything", in this case, being the general range of subjects the people who come here are interested in and enjoy.) We're trying to find that sweet spot between having the boards that should be essential to every chanboard that isn't just murrypurryfurry, and not having a board for every conceivable subject and single issue wonk. So suggesting we have a /k/ or a /woooo/ or whatever isn't going to carry much weight. Asking for a gaming board or a sports board might.

Basically, after the end of the month, replete with holiday leftovers and what prezzies we haven't broken or pawned, the mods will decide what the new board layout will be and announce it, likely in the first week in January. Before February arrives, we'll have implemented these changes, allowing time for behind-the-scenes setup and for thread archival and so on.

The floor is now open.

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>>	Sechs Fuckheaven!Bitchalicious 27/12/09(Sun)14:59 No. 618 ID: 9591c0 >>617 ... So you think that's too general, but then you want to dump everything entertainment-related that's NOT games in one board? Guys, we do appreciate the input, but please think before you post.

>>	Kento Foxeh !QDICKSs12s 27/12/09(Sun)19:37 No. 619 ID: e05e81 >>618 alright, alright, maybe not the best example. I'm certain tv and movies could be reliably lumped together.

Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 28/12/09(Mon)09:50 No. 620 ID: df3d5f

So far, these are the proposed changes that I believe are the most likely to happen:

• Personal boards for site moderators and regular posters / friends; this is happening for sure
• /hugbox/ - A LiveJournal-esque "blog" board where posters can shoot the shit about their lives
• /caw/ - Comics, Animation, and Webcomics; basically, /co/-lite - this board would be NSFW, but not centered around porn
• /collab/ - Collaborative Efforts; a board for the Artists Alley in which artists can collaborate on artistic endeavours of any kind
• /fun/ - A board focused on games of all kinds; a mash-up of 4chan's /tg/ and /v/ boards
• A board for discussion of films and television shows; the name is still up in the air

If you have any more feedback on these ideas (or any others posited in this thread), or you have any more suggestions on other changes we could make, get your posts in now.

>>	ponoiro 28/12/09(Mon)11:18 No. 622 ID: 5bcfb7 >>620 What is currently up on the chopping block, for reference sake?

Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 28/12/09(Mon)11:53 No. 623 ID: df3d5f

>>622

/currant/ is obviously up on the block, and will likely be axed if /fun/, /caw/, and the TV/movies board come into existence (since /currant/ covers all of the subjects those boards would). Sechs and I have discussed /use/ being up on the chopping block, and I'm fairly sure it won't be going away, though that can always change. /pr0n/ stands to possibly be split into separate boards (as stated in the OP), or it could be deleted altogether; this will likely be discussed quite a bit once we're ready to start the final considerations for the board changes.

The Artist Alley boards are NOT up on the chopping block.

>>	ponoiro 28/12/09(Mon)18:05 No. 624 ID: 5bcfb7 >>623 You should also increase the size of embeds. Kusaba has that strange annoyance of not letting embeds get bigger than 255x255, you can get around this by replacing the WIDTH and HEIGHT variables with your own values within the embed html itself.

>>	goronhead 28/12/09(Mon)18:38 No. 625 ID: 41edaa >>620 I think it would be good to have the embed feature on /fun/ like you can in /use/ and /currant/, for when we want to show trailers for games, etc.

>>	Kento Foxeh !QDICKSs12s 28/12/09(Mon)21:37 No. 626 ID: e05e81 >>625 Or, shit, maybe we might have our own Let's Play thread at some point.

Moebius!lDBOP6UaFs 28/12/09(Mon)22:37 No. 627 ID: 56586a

>>620

What've you got for the TV/Movie board name thus far? /vid/ would be nice and concise.

As for how things are looking now, I like the change lineup. One question occurs to me, and is related to something I mentioned in my earlier post: How would we be handling the 'take it to wtfur' thing we have going now? Separate threads for the art and discussion?

>>	Kento Foxeh !QDICKSs12s 28/12/09(Mon)23:07 No. 628 ID: e05e81 I submit /obey/ for the visual entertainment forum's name. afterall, we all know all movies and tv media are out to control our lives.

>>	Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 29/12/09(Tue)00:14 No. 629 ID: df3d5f >>627 We'll be discussing that, too. Not sure at the moment how we're gonna handle that.

Marx-Paragon 29/12/09(Tue)08:23 No. 630 ID: 68e7dc

Ok, i gotta question. Once the board change happens, what happens to content already on the board? Does it get discarded? Or moved to its apropriate place in the new setup?

If it's going to get removed, i kinda want to know so i can get anything before its gone.

Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 29/12/09(Tue)10:11 No. 631 ID: df3d5f

>>630

After we've announced the new site layout, we're going to keep all the boards the way they are until we've gotten any and all new boards up and running; once the new boards are up, all of the boards that are to be axed will be locked and remain up until we feel all content that can and should be backed up has been, by our hands or someone else's. Since we cannot transfer threads between boards without all the images disappearing (Kusaba X 0.9 can do this, but last time we tried to do the upgrade, the site broke), any threads that are on boards scheduled to be deleted will be gone for good.

foozzzball!!Z1AzAuZmOw 31/12/09(Thu)05:38 No. 632 ID: 8e7f32

I am quite worried about /collab/ turning into 'DRAW MY DRAGON IT HAS FOUR COCKS NOT FIVE ONE FOR EACH ELEMENT', but in principle I'm interested.

I write, and that is a little more invisible in the furry fandom, so I am hugely interested in opportunities to get involved with artists... but the mechanics of that are a little beyond me.

If it's any use to you guys, the process has either been:

A) I get in touch with an artist by sending them (or posting in public) information about what I'm looking to do, generally write a comic script for 'em to draw, in an informal pitch document type thing, which they then respond to and discussion happens.

B) An artist either asks me personally or puts out a request for whatever kind of writing, scripts or something to go with illustrations or whatever, which is usually a very super informal pitch, which I then respond to.

I'm sure there are considerably better models for getting people to collaborate.

>>	Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 31/12/09(Thu)16:29 No. 633 ID: df3d5f >>632 We'll be discussing this matter when we start to finalize all our plans for the site update, but if anyone else out there has any suggestions on how we could effectively structure /collab/, we're all ears.

>>	DrunkenChickenPirateGod!C/wUAV2I/c 01/01/10(Fri)14:32 No. 634 ID: eddbd7 How about /watch/ for the TV/movie board?

>>	Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 01/01/10(Fri)15:35 No. 635 ID: df3d5f >>634 Works for me.

>>	FantasyAddict 02/01/10(Sat)00:20 No. 636 ID: 041ac5 Any possibility of /Lit/ happening?

>>	Goddamned Anon 03/01/10(Sun)06:26 No. 637 ID: aa14fa When did we all become 'Goddamned Anon'? I just noticed XD

>>	DrunkenChickenPirateGod!C/wUAV2I/c 03/01/10(Sun)11:32 No. 638 ID: a40562 File: 126253635159.jpg-(57.29KB, 512x410, 3dglasses5121.jpg) >>635 I have what might serve as the background for the banner right here. >>637 Did you clear your cookies recently?

>>	Emee!Kemono 03/01/10(Sun)17:41 No. 639 ID: 131dba >>635 Hey Sage, just wondering if you got my email on gmail?

>>	Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 03/01/10(Sun)17:42 No. 640 ID: e19856 >>639 Yes I did, and I'll bring the idea up with Sechs when we start discussing the board layout.

>>	FantasyAddict 04/01/10(Mon)00:03 No. 641 ID: 041ac5 >>636 Guess not

>>	Marx-Paragon 04/01/10(Mon)11:09 No. 642 ID: 792d85 Do you guys have an estimated date for this?

>>	Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 04/01/10(Mon)11:46 No. 643 ID: e19856 >>642 Discussions on the finalized board layout will begin this week (likely today), and we'll announce the changes once we're done. I think the plan is to have all the changes made by the end of the month.

>>	Marx-Paragon 04/01/10(Mon)12:09 No. 644 ID: 792d85 >>643 Good deal. Thank you, sir.

>>	Emee!Kemono 04/01/10(Mon)17:02 No. 645 ID: 131dba I know this the lowest of your worries right now, but will you be changing the phrase "yiff yif-bang" to something different? And if so, can we give some suggestions?

>>	Sechs Fuckheaven!Bitchalicious 07/01/10(Thu)19:18 No. 648 ID: 5a8242 >>645 Knock yourself out.

Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 10/01/10(Sun)22:31 No. 650 ID: e19856

OKAY! After a long period of deliberation, Sechs and I have decided on what new boards you'll be getting! By the end of the month, the following boards will be added to the lineup:

• Personal boards for myself, Sechs, and the lolar bear Ragnarok.
• /ent/ (name undecided) - This board will cover discussion of movies, television, and literature.
• /fun/ (Fun and Games) - This board will cover games of all kinds; this includes videogames, tabletop games, and board games.
• /hugbox/ (The Hugbox) - This board will act as a Livejournal-esque board; you can bitch about your personal life, link to drama, that sort of thing.
• /caw/ (Comics, Animation, and Webcomics) - Exactly what it says on the tin; this board will cover discussion of comics, animation of all varieties, and webcomics.

Additionally, when the new boards go up, they will take over the functions some of the current boards have. Thus, when all the changes have been finalized, we will lock and (after an appropriate amount of time for archival purposes) delete /wtfur/ and /currant/.

Any board on the current lineup not mentioned here will not be changed or deleted.

>>	Richard Awesome 11/01/10(Mon)01:42 No. 651 ID: c2d37c Out of curiosity, would a topic like inserting contemporary politics into comics still go under the comics section? For instance, inserting a "Glenn Beck" character in the new Siege arc..

>>	LadyJessica!!yzLJV4LwAu 11/01/10(Mon)03:49 No. 652 ID: c97ffd >>650 What about porn for a webcomic? Hey, it happens. Same as above, for games? And how about a news board, like for discussion about articles and whatnot?

>>	DrunkenChickenPirateGod!C/wUAV2I/c 11/01/10(Mon)13:06 No. 653 ID: a40562 >>652 I think the first two can be covered under /pr0n/ if non-furry. And what kind of news?

Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 11/01/10(Mon)13:09 No. 655 ID: e19856

Just so you know our plans: the personal boards will be the first ones to go up, since they'll be easy to sort out in the menu layout (they'll be given their own section after the Artist Alley boards), and they'll likely go up sometime this week.

>>651

I would assume that as long as it doesn't veer TOO much into /use/ territory, yes, it would go in /caw/.

>>652

>And how about a news board, like for discussion about articles and whatnot?

Psst. What do you think /use/ is for? But you can use /baw/ to post news articles you find interesting, so long as they aren't overtly /use/ material.

>>	Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 11/01/10(Mon)13:43 No. 657 ID: e19856 >>652 >porn for webcomics and games Yeah, >>653 is correct: /pr0n/ can cover that.

>>	Age Forcedprison!ozOtJW9BFA 11/01/10(Mon)18:49 No. 659 ID: 01b0e5 >/hugbox/ (The Hugbox) - This board will act as a Livejournal-esque board; you can bitch about your personal life, link to drama, that sort of thing. So the Adventures of Dr. Nitebike and LaParkour-girl go here?

Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 11/01/10(Mon)20:17 No. 660 ID: e19856

>>659

Yes. And don't worry: since there's a few threads that are excessively long and have a good amount of content that could (and, in PedoTaz's case, SHOULD) be archived, /wtfur/ will be deleted after /currant/, and likely won't be deleted until some time next month just to make sure the content gets a chance to be archived.

Flynn 12/01/10(Tue)01:58 No. 661 ID: 4f2b58

>>650 Couple questions:

I assume /fisk will stay separate? Do you have a list of boards yet that will stay the way they are?

What do you mean by "archival purposes"? Out of curiosity I checked the Internet Archive and nothing from dammitfreehaven.com is on there (maybe this isn't surprising given the site format).

Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 12/01/10(Tue)14:07 No. 663 ID: e19856

>>661

/dammit/, /fisk/, /use/, /pr0n/, /thanku/, /site/, and the Artist Alley boards will not be going anywhere and they will not be altered in any way.

And the "archival purposes" thing? It means that we're giving people time to save content from threads on /wtfur/ or /currant/, whether than means saving images that were posted in the thread or taking screenshots of certain posts.

>>	Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 17/01/10(Sun)02:45 No. 664 ID: e19856 The personal boards are up and running (if you haven't noticed by now), and by the end of this week, we're going to have all of the other new boards up and running as well. Stay tuned.

Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 20/01/10(Wed)10:31 No. 665 ID: e19856

My current plan is to have all the new boards - /ent/ (whose name is still undecided - suggestions welcome!), /fun/ (Fun and Games), /hugbox/ (The Hugbox), and /caw/ (Comics, Animation, and Webcomics) - up by Friday afternoon; most likely, they'll go up sometime tomorrow. Once the boards have been created and properly set up (including any rules posts the boards may need), I'll add them to the menu listing and lock /currant/ and /wtfur/.

Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 21/01/10(Thu)12:23 No. 666 ID: e19856

In case you hadn't noticed, all the new boards are now up and running! /currant/ and /wtfur/ will remain open until Friday of next week, at which point they will be locked to public posting; by the end of next month, they will be deleted, so if there's any content on either board you feel you need to save, go ahead and start archiving it.

>>	Goddamned Anon 21/01/10(Thu)20:54 No. 667 ID: 33f48c I'm afraid I missed this; why is /wtfur/ up on the chopping block? And if it is, will there be another place for similar content to be sucked into so it doesn't flood out the other boards?

>>	Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 22/01/10(Fri)04:49 No. 669 ID: e19856 >>667 /hugbox/ is going to serve as the replacement for /wtfur/'s drama-posting aspect (the webcomic discussion aspect is now handled by /caw/).

>>	Richard Awesome 23/01/10(Sat)17:44 No. 670 ID: c2d37c Would it be appropriate to express my gratitude for the site updates and continuing to provide a great place to hang around without charging me money here?

>>	Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 24/01/10(Sun)02:40 No. 672 ID: e19856 >>670 Absolutely!

>>	Mr. B 27/01/10(Wed)11:39 No. 675 ID: cae57b Is there any chance of a preview post button feature being added?

>>	Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 27/01/10(Wed)20:45 No. 677 ID: e19856 >>675 Sorry, no. You might wanna go suggest it over on the official Kusaba X boards, though. http://kusabax.cultnet.net/

>>	Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 20/02/10(Sat)11:34 No. 681 ID: e12142 /currant/ and /wtfur/ will be deleted on March 1st; you have approximately eight days to save any content you wish to save from those boards before it's gone.

>>	Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 01/03/10(Mon)08:34 No. 682 ID: e12142 >>681 At approximately 5PM today (that's East Coast Time), /currant/ and /wtfur/ will be deleted. This is your final warning.

>>	Sage Freehaven!Goddammit 01/03/10(Mon)17:29 No. 683 ID: e12142 >>682 And now they're gone.

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