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1 No. 1 ID: fef1d2 Locked Stickied hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
Welcome to my United States of Eagleland! I am your host, your protector, your general... ZERO!

I have established this board so that all may speak what is in their hearts! Never shall you be banned for your words, your expressions, your dreams! Abide within our few laws, and all are welcome here!

But a warning! Outside these borders, the Freehaven siblings have sold themselves to the evil empire of Britannia! What you speak on this board may have consequences without, and I cannot guarantee your safety once you leave these lands!
>> No. 2 ID: fef1d2
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And I am Kallen Kozuki, leader of Zero's honor guard. Even though this is a land of justice and those damned Britannian sympathizers Sage and Sechs are fascists, they've still got a few right ideas.

So no posting stuff off the DNP! And nothing that's illegal in the real world!

My Guren and I won't show you any sympathy if you do!
>> No. 800 ID: debd05
"If you believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom of speech for views you don't like. Goebbels was in favor of freedom of speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you're in favor of freedom of speech, that means you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise." - Noam Chomsky


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13143 No. 13143 ID: 490921 hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
Venezuela bans violent video games: a first-person guest essay - http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/05/venezuela-chavez-adm.html

Guido Núñez-Mujica, a 26-year-old Boing Boing reader in Venezuela who is an avid gamer, writes in with this extensive personal observation piece about a new law that widely criminalizes video games in the South American country. As you read the piece, please also bear in mind that publishing this sort of thing under one's full name is not done without personal risk.
>> No. 13151 ID: a5ef47
HOW DARE YOU! HUGO CHAVEZ IS A GREAT REFORMER!
>> No. 13154 ID: 57def4
>>13151

and has his own TV show, Alo Presidente!

Anyone interested should check out the Frontline documentary - The Hugo Chavez Show.


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10616 No. 10616 ID: 3c4869 hide watch expand quickreply   [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
New copyright discussion thread.

The Psychology Of Externalities: Only I Can Benefit
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>> No. 13119 ID: 7f9e97
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13119
>>13118

I know. I mean I know I used a meme, but I'm seriously disappointed. I was expecting Sagecon 1, or Sagecon 2 at the very least, and instead I get "Let's figure out a way to make Bush share the blame." It's just so... I dunno, it's like I lost a little faith or something.

Sage went with partisan politics instead of getting outraged over a conspiracy to treat internet pirates worse than spouse abusers. What can you even count on in this world anymore, man...?
>> No. 13121 ID: 490921
>>13119

Don't mistake what I said for a lack of outrage over the Obama Admistration's support for the continued support of the creation/passing of ACTA. As I said, I think ACTA is a giant steaming load of bullshit. I just think all of the blame shouldn't be passed off on Obama and his administration; conversely, all of the blame shouldn't be put on Bush and his administration, either.

I truly believe that if ACTA is enacted, it stands a good chance of bringing the Internet to a halt, or at the least, having a very chilling effect on what people will do on the Internet. Considering how often someone commits copyright infringement through usage of the Internet on an average day, it would be incredibly easy to accuse someone of infringement and have their access to the Internet revoked under ACTA. And that's not even getting into the first listed provision in that Boing Boing article, which would do a lot to annihilate the right to actively and freely express one's opinions and ideas on the Internet.

This isn't about party lines and who should take all the blame; Bush, Obama, their cronies, Big Media, and all of the governments around the world that are supporting this pile of shit should all take the blame for its creation and its continued existence (and, given how easy it is to get things like this passed in backroom deals, its eventual designation into worldwide law).

Should ACTA become a reality, it would effectively grind the Internet to a halt as everyone tries to figure out if they're breaking worldwide laws and whether or not they're open to legal liability because of something they've posted. God knows Google would be fucked twenty ways from Sunday if they weren't in on this (and I'd almost bet that they are).
>> No. 13152 ID: 490921
Thinking About Real Copyright Reform - http://techdirt.com/articles/20091027/0406366692.shtml
>> No. 13153 ID: b3f5b8
"This isn't about party lines and who should take all the blame; Bush, Obama, their cronies, Big Media, and all of the governments around the world that are supporting this pile of shit should all take the blame for its creation and its continued existence"

Thank you


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13123 No. 13123 ID: bd3996 hide watch expand quickreply   [Reply]
So, Obama can't be bothered to go to the anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall or the anniversary of the start of WWII, but he didn't have any problems going off and trying to get the Olympics for Chicago?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/11/obama-will-not-travel-to-germany-for-20th-anniversary-of-fall-of-berlin-wall.html
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>> No. 13146 ID: ed7738
>>13142
>I could care less what Obama decides...

So you DO care about what he does.

As for the topic at hand, even with him dead Obama feared Reagan would overshadow him at the wall. I know it sounds petty, but then, Obama is horribly petty as well so it makes sense to me. He can't stand not being the center of attention and any place that has more world leaders, or is the subject of many former world leaders who accomplished far more in their short tenures than he has his entire life, he is afraid of being seen in the background rather than the foreground.
>> No. 13147 ID: c2d14e
>>13145,

Eh, I'll give you that... if it's legit, fine, I'm just tired of having every single thing about Obama become a news sensation.

>>13146
Eh, I care when its something worth me caring about. At first glance, this wasn't one of those things, and it's still a minor blip with me compared to some other issues I've had with Obama's presidency.
>> No. 13149 ID: e7279a
>>13123
Obama Would be shown on the nightly news for eating a muffin that`s how much the media loves him.
>> No. 13150 ID: a5ef47
>>13149
He DID get media coverage for flicking a fly away during an interview.


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13111 No. 13111 ID: 490921 hide watch expand quickreply   [Reply]
Found this story here: http://www.progressivepuppy.com/the_progressive_puppy/2009/11/fundies-to-test-matthew-shepard-act-by-inciting-a-hate-crime.html
Original source of the story (where the quoted text is from): http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=114428

A rally is being planned in Washington to raise the alarm over the nation's new "hate crimes" law and to force Attorney General Eric Holder to confront the unconstitutionality of the measure's "thought" penalties, according to a Christian leader working on the event.

"We're basically going to defy the law, and challenge it," Cass told WND. "We're going to declare the whole counsel of God, including those parts that some may consider 'inciting a hate crime' to see if the attorney general is going to come down and arrest a group of peaceful clergy exercising their First Amendment rights."

Wow. I...just...wow. There's literally no words to describe how utterly stupid these people are.
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>> No. 13139 ID: c2d14e
I'm now taking bets on whether or not the Westboro Baptist Church becomes involved. Because if you want unbiased hatred and bigotry, you need not look further that the WBC.
>> No. 13140 ID: 7f9e97
>>13139

Just don't bring up that Fred Phelps is a pretty diehard Democrat anywhere online, that tends to derail things.

... Oops.
>> No. 13141 ID: c2d14e
>>13140

It's just proof that political party doesn't matter, you can be an idiot or an asshole eitherway...
>> No. 13148 ID: 68827a
>>13141

This.


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13087 No. 13087 ID: 02c7f5 hide watch expand quickreply   [Reply]
Did you remember to vote yesterday?

Well, DID YOU!?
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>> No. 13099 ID: f2cfb4
>>13097
>I am glad to see that Ohio gaming had passed.

I actually voted against it. Not because I don't like gambling or whatever, it was merely that I really didn't think it was a constitutional issue (it was on the ballot as an amendment). Hell, that's why I voted against the other two state issues. Well, I voted against the farm one also because it was primarily meant to regulate commercial farms, but they make up less than 15% of all the farms in the state.
>> No. 13100 ID: c2999d
In Texas, everything has to be a constitutional amendment. That's the problem with writing a state constitution that does such things as establish the jurisdictions of specific postal zones...
>> No. 13110 ID: 65fe29
I voted. Virginia, fuck yeah!
>> No. 13144 ID: c2d14e
>>13100

Welcome to Texas: The roads are shit, the zones suck, and half of our counties are dry, but we have Austin! That's kinda cool, right?


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13127 No. 13127 ID: b9f0ae hide watch quickreply   [Reply]
http://www.breitbart.tv/co-worker-ft-hood-gunman-made-outlandish-comments-condemning-us-foreign-policy/

So, when do we agree that these people are the enemy?
>> No. 13130 ID: c2999d
Bigots? Oh, definitely the enemy. Torch 'em all.
>> No. 13133 ID: e03b4f
Interesting, 2 mass killers from VTech in the course of 2 years.
>> No. 13137 ID: ced9b4
>>13130
>Bigots?

lol wut?


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13070 No. 13070 ID: 009263 hide watch expand quickreply   [Reply]
Hey guys, why do we still have an embargo on Cuba? We trade with other countries with evil assholes, why is Cuba such an exception?
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>> No. 13091 ID: 7f9e97
>>13090
>>and in your country's eyes

Yeah, because when America has a problem with gulags, dragging people off the street and sending them to work camps because they spoke out against the government, and keeping the lower classes poor and powerless so that they can't create an uprising, we're just being prejudiced.

But when other countries ACCUSE America of all that stuff, it's a sign that there's something very wrong and that America needs to submit to the UN so that it can finally be set right.

... Did you wake up retarded today, or does Cuba always induce a "herp derp wutz wrong deyz juz communists" reaction in you?
>> No. 13092 ID: c2999d
I would say 'but we get along fine with Vietnam', but they've been trying to inject capitalism into their economy for the past twenty or so years.

But I think I get the general feeling for the remark about 'Communists are evil'. The United States is willing to support equally oppressive totalitarian states that call themselves anything other than Communist, after all, even if they behave in an almost identical manner.
>> No. 13102 ID: 68827a
>>13091
>Did you wake up retarded today, or does Cuba always induce a "herp derp wutz wrong deyz juz communists" reaction in you?

Proof that I can't be facetious (or fatiqued) in my responses.

Regardless, Canada has been on friendlier terms with Cuba than the US has been with the island.

Is the embargo a holdover from the Cold War? Yes. Should the embargo be lifted? Yes.
>> No. 13109 ID: 65fe29
>>13092
Please, provide an example.


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12903 No. 12903 ID: 490921 hide watch expand quickreply   [Reply]
Ever-Present Surveillance Rankles the British Public - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/25/world/europe/25surveillance.html
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>> No. 13037 ID: c2d14e
>>12971 , Jesus, that...that's really scary if it's real, because that's almost right out of V for Vendetta right there...
>> No. 13044 ID: ed7738
>>13037
I instantly thought of 1984 myself. Next up: Thought police. After all, in both countries we're gradually being told more and more what we cannot say. There's only one next step from censoring speech.
>> No. 13104 ID: 490921
UK Law Firm Sets Up Special Team To Hunt Down Anonymous Commenters - http://techdirt.com/articles/20091102/1018016768.shtml

Hey, so, way to prove you don't want anyone to speak their mind, Britain.
>> No. 13105 ID: 7f9e97
>>13104

I was unaware that needed proving, it's been pretty clear for awhile.


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12581 No. 12581 ID: 490921 hide watch expand quickreply   [Reply]
Okay, it's safe to say I've found SageCon 2.

http://blog.mattalgren.com/2009/09/hospital-forces-lesbian-to-die-alone/
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>> No. 13086 ID: 490921
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gay_marriage_maine

Maine, I am disappoint.
>> No. 13088 ID: 8f4378
>>13086
Honestly, who didn't see this coming? The legislature and governor made that decision, they didn't put it to an open vote. People, whether democrat (Obama, anyone?) or more right-leaning, are still majority homophobic these days, whether they admit to it or not.

The attitudes ARE changing, but I still think it'll be a while before they put their votes where their mouths are.
>> No. 13093 ID: c2d14e
>>13086, I headdesked so hard, I actually broke the drawer underneath it when I read this earlier...

Also, I think I have a minor concussion...
>> No. 13098 ID: a5ef47
>>13093

Loooooooool

>>13088

What he said. Attitudes are changing. While the previous few generations aren't very sympathetic to gays, enough proof exists that every subsequent generation has a more tolerant view.

You guys are going to get what you want, it's just going to take time.


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