And I am Kallen Kozuki, leader of Zero's honor guard. Even though this is a land of justice and those damned Britannian sympathizers Sage and Sechs are fascists, they've still got a few right ideas.

So no posting stuff off the DNP! And nothing that's illegal in the real world!

My Guren and I won't show you any sympathy if you do!

"If you believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom of speech for views you don't like. Goebbels was in favor of freedom of speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you're in favor of freedom of speech, that means you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise." - Noam Chomsky

>>14587

I'm not normally one to actually defend ED, but one country being able to prosecute/jail/bring legal action against citizens of other countries because of content on the Internet is flat-out retarded. Hell, a state within the US doing that sort of thing with citizens of other states is retarded, too.

I recall, some months ago I believe, Rags described the UK as "the worst country in the western world"; I was just wondering if we can officially declare Australia the new titleholder in that regard.

>>14587
If I was him, I'd probably start calling news stations and my Congressional representatives and try to get some good old-fashioned public outrage brewing.

>>14601

Depends, does Australia acknowledge Sharia law?

>>14602
Don't need to, the continually trump it in other ways.
Oh sure, the punishments aren't to the same severity level, not yet anyway, but the things you can get charged for...well honestly even some Muslim countries probably treat them like a joke. Don't forget this case, after all.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/08/bart-simpson-child-pornography-and-free-speech/
http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2008/12/cowabunga-simpsons-porn-on-the-pc-equals-child-pornography.ars

>>14614
I think I'm gonna write a really stupid fake-script for the trailer.

It will involve Abraham Lincoln riding a Harley-Davidson, Nazi Aliens, and Time-Travel.

>>14614

You sir would win many internets if you. Throw in some Ninja Cyborg Pirate Jesus (not necessarily all in one) and it would be epic.

Okay, I'll admit: I think American education in regards to the social studies is fucked, fucked, fucked. And I currently live in Texas, so doubly so.

And I really DO think the problems run deeper than just Texas, by FAR. The ONLY schools whose fucking history programs matter are the few Classical schools that start with the dawn of history and teach the ancients (Mesopotamia & Egypt, Greco-Roman Classical civilization, China, etc.).

Guess how education worked in ancient societies from Sumer to Egypt to Hatti to China to Rome? Big emphasis on fucking MATH, a particular SCIENCE OR RIGOROUS DISCIPLE (astronomy for the Babylonians, Panini's Classical Sanskrit for India, physics for the Greeks, etc.) and THE FUCKING ANCIENT HISTORY AND LITERATURE OF THAT CULTURE.

China had the longest-lasting continuous culture in world history and their entrance exams for distinguished government service were about HISTORY AND POETRY, not the fucking "jump through the hoops" shit our modern education has (and that fucking includes Western Europe, I am fucking sick of Western Europe's education systems).

The fact this overhaul is debating the nuances of SHIT NO ONE WILL BE STUDYING IN FIVE HUNDRED YEARS EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE WILL STILL FUCKING KNOW HAMMURABI, RAMSES THE GREAT, ARISTOTLE, LAO TZU, THE PUNIC WARS, HOMER, ECCLESIASTES is FUCKING MIND-BOGGLING.

I've taught for private education, and some of my public-minded friends are trying to get me to teach in public school instead of going back to university for a higher degree. But I've taught history, literature, and economics in a PRIVATE school and that shit is fucked up there. If I get a degree in math, I'll fucking teach math. But I can't imagine teaching social studies or science in an American school. Fuck.

But this takes the cake:

"Jefferson, a deist who helped pioneer the legal theory of the separation of church and state, is not a model founder in the board’s judgment. Among the intellectual forerunners to be highlighted in Jefferson’s place: medieval Catholic philosopher St. Thomas Aquinas, Puritan theologian John Calvin and conservative British law scholar William Blackstone. Heavy emphasis is also to be placed on the founding fathers having been guided by strict Christian beliefs."

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Oh man I just had a cigarette. That was like prom. I'd totally deserve a ban for treating USE like Hugbox. I apologize. But man, that felt good.

As an addendum, the Classical schools in Texas are predominantly conservative Christian, so that's a whole other headache. I should move to Colorado.

>>14624
>What gave us Prop 8 wasn't the courts, it was a bunch of in-state bigots being funded by a bunch of out-of-state bigots to put a measure on a ballot to try to make an example out of California.

Alright, if that's what you truly believe, then explain how the law that was in place before the courts overturned it was passed to begin with. Was that just "out-of-state bigot"s as well?

>>14626

My pet theory is that people thought that "yes" meant "yes, gay people can marry" instead of "yes, let's fuck over gay people." Probably no basis in actual fact though, and it can't really be proven.

>>14627

I'd love to engage someone logically on the idea that people can marry the same sex, but for the most part I've found that people tend not to listen to any reason besides the one they made up for themselves. At that point when a person literally has no logical argument that has not already been refuted and still refuses to accept that they are incorrect, I'm pretty sure it's safe to call them a bigot.

>>14629

I'm assuming by "the law that was in place before the courts overturned it" references California Proposition 22, on the ballots in 2000, passed, and then struck from the record in 2008 by the California Supreme Court, and then promptly superseded by Prop 8. Unfortunately I was unable to find campaign funding information from the Proposition 22 campaign, but Proposition 8's campaign was very clearly funded by out-of-state interests, including the Latter-Day Saints, as well as companies in places such as Utah and Arizona.

http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/prop8/

This is a nice search tool that looks through the donations for the Yes on 8 and No on 8 campaigns. So yes, there was funding coming in from outside California for the Yes on 8 campaign.

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>>14630

This makes me feel a little better about my state: according to their records, only 27 people in NC supported Prop 8 with donations (with the top donation being $1,000), while 321 people donated to organizations against it (there were four $1,000 donations and a $2,500 dontation on that side).

>>14618
>civil unions are a step down from marriage rights
Yeah. If they're going to have two separate systems, at least make them equal.

Still separate.

But equal.

Left right I'd say it was okay, but wow ... I'm reverse Hitler according to this test.

>>14538
I got a kick outta that and apparently Steven Harper is a neo liberal authoritian according to the chart on the site oh and here's mine. and I have to agree with rags situations are needed since there are more than yes, strong yes, no, strong no, answers.

>>> What's good for the most successful corporations is always, ultimately, good for all of us.
>>> If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.
I like how, if you agree with the first one, you can't answer the second one.

>>> No one chooses his or her country of birth, so it's foolish to be proud of it.
Hmmm. My answer makes me sound nationalistic, when I really just disagree with their reasoning. I know a bunch of people who are "proud", and they sure as shit didn't choose that.

>>> All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind.
I like these questions that conflate two separate statements. Progressives would disagree about segregation, while racists would disagree about rights: both would answer the same way.

>>> In a civilised society, one must always have people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded.
I just don't like how this is phrased. I know what they mean, but it sounds a lot like "turtles all the way down".

>>> Some people are naturally unlucky.
Well, statistically speaking, sure.

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I thought it would be much more close to the upper left than it is.

>>14500

I had something to say regarding presidents and supervising, but then I thought better of blathering aimlessly about opinions on the powers of the executive branch.

>>14501

What is there to "get" about Palin that coastal elitism keeps people from appreciating?

She's just another politician with a narrative and a crisp image. She really is nothing special apart from her capacity to woo people, and seeing as you spent a post complaining about Obama being too extolled, that obviously can't count in *Palin's* favor, now can it?

The day of redemption is at hand

>>14496

Obama promised on many occasions he was going to bring change. The nation would change under his presidency. Now we can fight over what range of change this constitutes, but he did promise change.

He also promised he wasn't going to make gay marriage a federal issue and yet for some reason Gay activists voted for the man on that issue despite him being fairly open about his opposition to gay marriage. They then condemned him for his position even though that was in his campaign.

People grabbed onto his campaign slogan, but never really bothered to try to grasp what he proposed in his "changes" many of which he's already abandoned such as an immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

my favorite place for fries is arby's. I just love me some curly fries. and I've always liked their roast beef .
for burgers, I like red robin or sonic, but I'm not really a big fan of burgers, so I don't go there very often.
and for hot dogs, there's this local place called hot dog king that has seriously the biggest and best dogs I've ever seen/eaten. with the hot dog itself and all the toppings that go on them, they probably weigh at least a pound each. and they've got a large selection of combinations.

>>14361
This is the best source I can find for the image:
http://www.fooducate.com/blog/2009/08/03/guess-whats-in-the-picture-foodlike-substance/

Whether the image is accurate or not, mechanically separated meat would look something like that. Basically you take the remains of the carcass after all the meat you can manually remove is gone and use high pressure to force any remaining tissue, cartilage, sinew etc. through a fine sieve (so only really tine bone fragments get through).

The stuff is mainly used in cheap hotdogs and stuff. It will basically taste like the real thing and is much cheaper.

I still call BS.

I call it BS too. PETA types are not above stupid bullshit to get people to bow to their agenda.

Well, guess it's time to delete all those digital copies of my old cassette tapes, and let the music disappear into the ether! It sure is good to know that someone's out there to stop people from archiving stuff that will be lost for eternity, simply because some people can't get hard unless copyright is as draconian as possible.

Seriously though, fuck the government the governments for making preserving history illegal.

>>14468

So your're telling me American Conservatives hold loyalty to the crown, just as Canadian Conservatives do?

I think my brain just set off a grenade in my skull...

Too many definitions and terms... I prefer to simplify American politics into Locke vs Rousseau as it seems that's what it all eventually boils down to.

>>14471
God damn, were you seriously born this retarded or is it a combination of the crossdressing and being in Toronto? Fuck. There are no American Conservatives unless you count the tiny-ass constitutionalist party that was formed in 2008. There are, however, American conservatives and Canadian conservatives. Learn the difference between polticial ideology and parties.

>>14491

I think one of the things that annoys me the most is that things like this basically give people excuses to make homophobic jokes.

Stuff like >>14470 is a good example. Yes, I know that the "reasoning" is that these people are being mocked for hypocrisy, not for being gay. But that comes off as more of an excuse because the clear intent is to be insulting towards male conservatives by implying (or outright stating, in many cases) that they're gay.

Say what you want, you're still using homosexuality as an insult. That's not exactly any more enlightened or less degrading than calling it a sin.

>>14490

Didn't think of it that way, and I can see where you're going, but the point of the comic is pretty much expressly to joke about recent events in the media (i.e. Mr. Ashburn here), not point out that someone's gay because being gay is funny. That's like saying that Person A hates black people because they're calling out Person B (a black man) for being racist against blacks.

Remember, people, the classic bullying tactic: If you accuse everyone else of being <thing> and rail on them as though it's horrible, no one will ever accuse YOU of being <thing>.

In this case, I think these guys are ashamed, and/or afraid it goes against their own desired moral code, and/or are afraid of being outed and ridiculed. Thus, they protect their dark secret by bneing as anti- as possible. "No one could ever think I'm gay if I HATE gays"

Am I surprised? No. I only hope that, once they come out, they start supporting the rights of others.

Speaking of gay people:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_lesbian_prom_date